HJ2 Discussion - Horse Genetics Game - Dev Forum

Two consistent horses = inconsistent?

royal drakon — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 08:33:00 -0700

About 20 times, I have bred two consistent horses, only to get an inconsistent horse. Why is this? It really frustrates me. Does anyone have any good inconsistent horses? I have an inconsistent horse that I want to keep... I like him color wise but I am not sure What kind of show horse he could make.

Rank 1: Flaxen Dark Chestnut

hannahbrook — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 21:47:53 -0700

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/add_horse_form.php?dhh=171582

Your favorite foundation?

royal drakon — Tue, 07 Apr 2015 07:07:45 -0700

Have any of you ever gotten a really amazing looking foundation horse? What's your favorite foundation that you currently own? Mine is probably this gal because she looks like she may grey out. And I love greys ♥

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=215631

how doi make my mares breeding mares?

nauru stables — Tue, 07 Apr 2015 03:56:58 -0700

please help

how do i breed horses? please help

nauru stables — Tue, 07 Apr 2015 03:46:13 -0700

how do I breed horses? im only new to this

Unfortunate show placings?

royal drakon — Sun, 05 Apr 2015 13:13:43 -0700

Am I the only one with a bright red line going down my barns page? Is it normal to be such a loser in the show ring? Cure for this? Or therapy? Lol my horses lose in shows so often that I hardly rack up any points. Its frustrating.

For new members: Facebook group link

Kaquel — Sun, 05 Apr 2015 17:23:39 -0700

I was talking to Abbey Road recently and realized that I was not the only one who had no clue that there was a very active facebook group for HAJ and HJ2 players until months into playing the game. Here's hoping that this link helps you avoid that :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/huntandjump/

The facebook group is very active (more active than the forums, IMO). It's a good place to snap up herd helpers and good sales. You'll see posts for both HAJ and HJ2. There is also a file you can edit that lets people know which facebook members correspond to which players if you're interested in doing that - it helps people find you if they need to contact you for some reason. There is also a search feature in the upper right hand corner of the page, which is helpful if you are trying to find the answer to a question and it's not on the forums.

Check out her color

PaintsStables — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:02:59 -0700

I rerolled her, and her color says Buckskin. I really like the unique color she turned out for a Buckskin.
Antique Carousel:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=208307

Thanks, Ammit

SandycreekFarm — Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:57:08 -0700

Congratulations you won 10000 hbs in the horse creation lottery!

With just one create, too!

Anyone Notice?

Baya — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:57:38 -0700

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=144243

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=142030

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=127802

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=89363

that bays and browns turn out blood red when rerolled? they are pretty now

Wanted: GMT'able Perfect Foundation

TNT Stable — Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:11:26 -0700

Want to buy a Perfect Foundation....unbred and 4 years or under. I want it to GMT.

Please let me know what you have and prices. :)

Faveorite foals for Y22?

Baya — Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:56:03 -0700

what are your favorite babies this breeding season?

these are my three favorite fillys

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=213240 < Age Of Rules- 4th gen- Classic Cream Champange Sabino

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=213173 < Red Duster-5th gen- White Black Appaloosa

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=212685 < Rumble Dust-5th gen- White Black Ice Tobiano

Rank 1: Sooty Buckskin

Silent Star Stables — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:02:11 -0700

All horses will be buckskin with sooty and no pangere.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/add_horse_form.php?dhh=171121

Favorite Foals

Kaquel — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:03:54 -0800

Okay now I think everyone can breed so let's start posting our favorite foals!

First up on my list is this lovelllyy colt:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=202106
Most of my studs didn't sire any exciting colts this season, but Huracán produced a colt that I think will be his successor: Relámpago.

I love his chocolate points and the size of his blanket. I just think he's very dashing.

Next, this colt was a pleasant surprise:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=202523
He is best case scenario for color outcome as far as I'm concerned. I didn't even know his dam was carrying pearl :)

I got a good amount of fillies but not much that blew me out of the water. It was kind of a wamp-waa year for me colorwise (quality is TBD) with a few exceptions:

My S+ colt was awful stingy with sharing it this year, but I did get a few nice fillies (if anyone has "boring" 2nd gen mares that are quality and you aren't interested in breeding them yourself, I'm interested):
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=202748
I love simple bay with S+ and sabino:

This lady didn't get her dam's appy, but I don't really care for it anyway. She got Brego's sabino which is the important one for me:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=202527

Finally, I really like this DP sabino girl:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=201853

Let's see your favorite foals!

No email, can't find the foals!

Lucky strike — Mon, 02 Mar 2015 05:12:41 -0800

I ran my pasture, and it gave me the message that they'd been bred, but no email, and no babies!

How long to wait for the email, and where do they show up? (This is my first year w/ trying pasture breeding, apologies if it's a dumb or panicky question!)

Favorite Gene Combo?

Baya — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:45:05 -0800

What your guys fave Gene combo? My favorite would be White Bay Appaloosa or Silver Grey Sabino

And for this ill be giving away a few random prizes

Help me decide what to add...

Kaquel — Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:38:55 -0800

So I am having a somewhat bad day...I had an absolutely terrible quantum mechanics midterm last night (6:30-9:30 PM on Friday UGH) and today I am feeling wiped out and stressed about a trip I have to plan. All that has me feeling a little bit impulsive and welllll I decided to treat myself. I snagged this guy from the foundation rescue and have already GMTed him to be AtAt. I want to add either sb1 or sb2. I think I am slightly more partial to the look of sb2, but I already have 3 sb2 colts (all lined). This would be my first foundation sb2, but since I don't have any sb1 boys at all, I thought it might be nice to go that way. I am so undecided XD

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=194952

What would you guys add?

Pleasant Find!

Kaquel — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:22:14 -0800

I was bored and felt like picking up some cheap mares that had enough foals to be papered and papering them for fun. I found two foundation mares who fit the bill. I figured I was definitely about to waste my money (one of the mares had 3 foals and hadn't even been run through MA), but to my pleasant surprise they both papered red and threw some nice foals for me including a B papered colt that inherited his father's coloring!

Here are the mares:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=164852
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=166789

And here's the colt:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=201300

What a lucky find!

Edit: just noticed that they had been bred to some higher gen. studs...which probably explains the red papers...bummer =/

Horse Leveled Off?

RiverRunStables — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 19:01:48 -0800

Hi everyone! I'm new to this server and play on HJ1 as PinkFlamingo. I am wondering about one of my horses I just created yesterday. I did one round of training on him, and on his page it says his training has leveled off. Does this mean he can't gain anymore from training? Is he a show prospect dud? Here's the link to his page for you all to see: http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=199982

RiverRunStables

Lovely Dapples (on my Laptop Anyway)

PaintsStables — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 05:33:50 -0800

This little filly got some lovely little dapples. (They show up on my laptop anyway) I love them. I am thinking Bay, with Sooty and Pangre?? And Splash of course. I haven't tested her yet, she was so pretty, I decided to post first. And not test or change the background or add her tattoo for a couple of days, in case the dapples went away when I do her background change. http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=201065

What's the worst PT score you've gotten with one of your horses?

Kaquel — Sat, 21 Feb 2015 09:39:23 -0800

I just PTed one of my foundation stallions, and he had me laughing:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=199459

Luckily, he papered C so he'll be sticking around...but geez 5 just looks so pathetic XD

Pssst have you guys noticed?

Kaquel — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:00:18 -0800

Now in the genetic testing the PAX3 genes are showing up:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=198672

Do you think we're going to get splash 2? *runs and hides*

Rank 2: White 1 Chestnut

Double T Stables — Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:10:43 -0800

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/add_horse_form.php?dhh=169808

Rank 1: Homozygous Sooty

Double T Stables — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:44:55 -0800

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/add_horse_form.php?dhh=169717
All horses will be homozygous (SstySsty) for the sooty gene. All base colors are possible, but all horses will have dark coats with heavy shadowing. Horses might patterned or solid.

Alright let's talk in-game genetics...

Kaquel — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:25:02 -0800

I couldn't find a thread like this in the old forum (but since I don't have a log in, I can't search, so it could definitely be there), but I thought it would be useful for me and anyone else starting out. I want to see if I've got all the genes sorted out:

Coat Color Gene Guide
Contributors include Salvistar, KerredansCorral, Abbey Road, and SandyCreek Farm

Base Coat Genes:
Extension: Possible combinations are EE, Ee, and ee. A horse that has one dominant (E) allele will be black based, while a horse that has two recessive alleles will be red based.

Agouti: Possible combinations are AA, Aa, and aa and each allele could be standard A (regular bay), A+ (wild bay) or At (brown-needs example). A horse that has one dominant (A) allele carries agouti. Agouti will only exhibit on black based horses, but red based horses can be carriers. A+ is dominant to all other forms, while A is dominant to At. AtAt will produce a lighter colored horse than Ata.

Cream/Pearl: Possible combinations are CC, CcrC, CcrCcr, CprlC, CprlCprl, and CcrCprl.
-Cream is incomplete dominant which means that a horse that carries one copy of the cream allele will be a single dilute (black->smokey black, chestnut->palomino, bay->buckskin (examples needed)) while a horse that has two copies will be a double dilute (black->smokey cream, chestnut->cremello, bay->perlino (examples needed)).
-(input needed on this one) Pearl exhibits only when a horse has two copies of the allele. Note that if a horse is CcrCprl, it will exhibit like a CcrCcr horse, but it still carries Cprl.

Dun: Possible combinations are DD, Dd, and dd. A horse that has one dominant (D) allele will be dun. Dun exhibits as lighter coloring with darker points on the face and legs. Some horses have a dorsal stripe and may have striping on the legs. Common combinations include chesnut->red dun, bay->bay dun, and black->grullo (examples needed).

Gray: Possible combinations are GG, Gg, and gg. A horse that has one dominant (G) allele will be gray. Gray horses are born as whatever base color they would have been without the presence of gray, but lighten over time. Sometimes a gray foal that has not grayed out can be identified by small sections of gray around the eyes and muzzle. (example needed)

Flaxen: Possible combinations are FF, Ff, and ff. Red based horses that are homozygous recessive (ff) will have flaxen manes and tails.

Sooty: Possible combinations are SstySsty, SstyS, and SS. Sooty controls how dark a horse is. It is incomplete dominant which means a horse with only one Ssty allele horse will be lighter than a SstySsty horse. There is also a limited edition version of sooty (S+) which creates a dappled effect.

Pangere: Possible combinations are PP, Pp, and pp. A horse that has one dominant (P) allele and is either red based or bay based will exhibit pangere. Pangere creates an area of light coloring around the muzzle, front legs, and loins on a horse.

Silver: Possible combinations are ZZ, Zz, and zz. A horse with one dominante (Z) allele that is black based will exhibit silver. Silver turns the black points on a horse into a silver color. (example needed)

Champagne: Possible combinations include ChCh, Chch, and chch. A horse with one dominant (Ch) allele will exhibit champagne. Champagne gives the horse a "pinkish" hue (better way to describe this appreciated). Champagne horses have pink, often speckled muzzles. With the champagne gene, black->classic champagne, bay->amber champagne, and chestnut->gold champagne (example needed).

Satin: Section needed

Dense Phelomelanin (DP): This gene cannot currently be tested for. DP only exhibits on red based horses, and can be hard to detect without a Ssty allele present as well. (I think it would be cool if we just collected a bunch of examples of this and I posted them here. I'l start with one of mine that I think has DP: example

Pattern Genes:

Kit: The Kit gene controls roan (Kitr), tobiano (Kitto), white (Kitw, Kitw2, Kitw3, Kitw4) and sabino (Kitsb1, Kitsb2, Kitsb3). Each horse only has two kit alleles, so any given horse can only have a maximum of two of these patterns. Note that a horse can only pass on one of its kit alleles, so if you have a roan tobiano horse, he can only pass on either roan or tobiano, but not both.

Roan: The roan allele exhibits as an even mixture of white and colored hairs over most of the body, excluding the head and legs.

Tobiano: The tobiano allele exhibits as white patches that cross over the top of a horse. Tobiano horses will occasionally have white tails.

White: The white alleles creates irregular, white patches on a horse. There are four white alleles: (examples). Any horse that inherits two of any white allele will be stillborn! Breeding two white horses won't increase the chance of having a live, white foal; it will only yield a 25% chance of a dead foal. Note that white 1 or 2 combined with sabino 1 or 2 will yield a dead foal as well. (visual differences between W1, W2, W3, and W4?, examples of white horses needed)

Sabino: The sabino alleles typically create white markings on a horse's face, legs and on the underside of his body. Sabino 1 has a smudgy look, while sabino 2 has much more jagged edges. Sabino 3 is more patchy and tends to cover more of a horse's body. Note that white 1 or 2 combined with sabino 1 or 2 will yield a dead foal.

Splash: Splash generally exhibits on the lower parts of a horse's body (think paint splashed up on the horse). There are three splash alleles: Sps, Sps2, Sps3.

Varnish:

Appaloosa:

Rabicano:

Frame; (OwlO exhibits frame), fatal if homozygous

Ice: I know nothing about this one. Aren't there a ton of variations on this too? Is this reverse dapples in RL?

White Factor:

Pattern Expression:

Kit Promoter:

Gulastra Plume:

Please correct me where I'm wrong or let me know what I should add to make this more complete. I'll edit it so we have something like an approximate record of what does what.

Thanks, Ammit for the lottery

OndowaStables — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 02:29:38 -0800

I just won 250000hb creating some gray cream colts!

Who uses strict mare advice?

Kaquel — Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:11:44 -0800

I was just wondering if most level 5 users make use of strict mare advice. It seems it would definitely increase your herd quality long-term, but do people find that it is too ruthless and you end up with a very small amount of mares at the end?

I haven't personally used it, but would definitely consider it if many people have good experiences.

Just love the Ear Tips!

KerredansCorral — Fri, 06 Feb 2015 06:24:06 -0800

Bred my Splash 3 stud to a splash mare, and got a highly marked splashed horse, that all the color you can see is just on the ear tips. I usually don't like lots of white, but I think he looks soo cute with just the tips colored. :)

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=193114

Upgrade question from noob

Lucky strike — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:56:12 -0800

Before I message an admin:

How long does it take upgrades to be 'seen'? Logged out, logged back in, no change.

Any advice?

Thank you
Laurel

My first horses went to the Great Pasture In the Sky

PaintsStables — Sun, 01 Feb 2015 07:16:59 -0800

I lost my first three horses this season. Hunters Moon, Sheza Hot Pepper Too, and Lady Timberline all went to the Great Pasture in the Sky. RIP my babies, you did well in foals that are winning for me. :(