https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/categories/help-/p109/feed.rss Thu, 03 Sep 26 17:51:55 -0700 Help me out - Horse Genetics Game - Dev Forum en-CA https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4708/done Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:50:53 -0800 AnythingSmall 4708@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4697/auction-ended-early Thu, 05 Nov 2015 16:52:36 -0800 nycequestrian 4697@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4689/how-did-i-loose-a-foal Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:31:49 -0800 Noahs ark 4689@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4693/pages Thu, 05 Nov 2015 14:01:35 -0800 Baya 4693@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/1272/for-newbies-why-breed-evenly Sat, 09 Aug 2014 08:54:13 -0700 Abbey Road 1272@/forum/discussions Edit by game owner: The below is a member's opinion only and not a rule or stand point of the game. Breeding uneven makes it harder to get intact foals. If you don't care about that feel free to ignore everything posted below. Breed how you want.


(I wasn't quite sure where to put this, apologies if it's in the wrong place).

It seems like we have a lot of new blood, which is AWESOME, welcome to the game and the addiction!

There's been a bit of discussion on the forum about even breeding so I wanted to put this out there. Veteran players may or may not agree with me, these are my opinions, and a little explanation for the curious... and if any veterans have anything to add, please do; I've only been playing since October myself.

If you're new to the game you'll find that many people who have been playing a while are absolutely adamant about keeping pedigrees even, and I figured you might wonder (as I did), what's the big deal?

I'll start by saying that you can breed however you want, it's a game and it's not against the rules to breed whatever you like, with ONE caveat: If you're using a public stallion or mare that belongs to someone else, you should comply with the requests in the notes section on the stallion's page. Failing to do so isn't strictly against the rules but that breeder can ban you from breeding to any of their stock in the future.

So, why bother with even pedigrees? I mean, you can make all the foundation mares you want, and you've got this really awesome 3rd gen stud you picked up.

A few reasons.

1. You should be breeding for quality as well as color -- in fact, you should be breeding for quality first, THEN color. When you go to test your horses on Gelding Advice or Mare Advice, the game compares your horse to its sire or dam, depending on gender, and if the foal is inferior then it will be altered. Foundation horses are almost always poorer quality than subsequent generations (assuming the breeder is breeding for quality), so if you're breeding unevenly, especially more than one generation unevenly, you're going to end up with a lot more spays and gelds. It is heartbreaking and it doesn't go far in advancing your breeding goals.

2. Unevenly bred horses have a much higher incidence of inconsistency.

3. It looks much nicer on the pedigree. This may seem nitpicky but it's a factor. Some players breed to make the pedigree look cool -- all black and white, for example.

4. If you want to sell your horses at all, you should definitely breed evenly. I have noticed that when I am ready to sell breeding stock, well bred horses with even pedigrees sell (because they are valued in the game), whereas unevenly bred horses typically have practically no value. There might be a few exceptions if the color is outrageously awesome, but you'll have a very difficult time selling an unevenly bred horse for more than you can auction him/her. By the same token, if you want people to use your stud, you'll have success offering him if he's bred evenly, and little success if he's not, even if his color is really cool.

5. Breeders Clubs. If the breeders clubs and awards matter to you, you should be aware that an unevenly bred horse won't show up on the leaderboards unless it's 3+ generations minimum ("lined"). I'm not 100% sure this is the case but I think so. Otherwise it would be unfair to 2nd gen horses to compete with horses who are 2nd gen on one side and 3rd gen on the other, and unfair to the uneven horse to compete with higher gen horses.

6. The best equivalent I can think of in real horses is inbreeding. While inbreeding siblings is mostly OK here in the game, there's a pretty heavy stigma against uneven horses for all of the above reasons.




So, what to do instead of breeding your 3rd gen stallion (or someone else's 3rd gen stallion) to a bunch of foundation mares?

1. Keep a weather eye on auctions and sales. This is the BEST way to pick up good mares. Those of us who have been playing a while end up with barns full of stock because we're breeding a LOT... which means either buying a bunch of new barns for real money, or unloading stock that is pretty good quality because it's the wrong color for our breeding program or not quiiiiiiiite as good as this other horse... this is especially true of studs. You can often get a color, excellent quality stallion for a few thousand HBs.

2. Be patient. Get a little bit of lined stock started with purchased horses, but by all means, start your own line from scratch. Tattoo them. It's so rewarding to have a good quality, fully lined horse whose pedigree is full of horses you bred yourself. If you want color, decide what you can afford in real money and GMT one stud (caveat emptor... this is highly addictive!), then start working on your foundation band of mares. (Also, make sure the stud is good quality before you GMT him; on HJ2 that means C papered). Pick up good quality foundation mares either by going on a create spree and testing, or get them from Foundation Rescue. Rescue mares are among the highest quality in the game. (Put Player #13 in your search when looking for rescues). It takes a little while to get stock built up this way but it works. Keep an eye on Facebook and the Forum daily for Herd Helpers that go with the color(s) you're breeding for. Cull mares who aren't putting out quality. Oh, and put them in your pasture! The pastures are putting out fabulous quality, if you leave the mares in there long-term.

3. Ask! You'll find that people in this game are ENORMOUSLY helpful and generous. If you put a post on the forum saying "I'm breeding for brown tobianos, does anyone have any stock/straws that they might lend? Here's the mare/stallion I want to breed to." You'll be surprised at how much response you get. Especially if you are upgraded to the point where you can use the advanced breeding facilities -- most of us are happy to sell straws at cost to a new player (especially if you agree to breed evenly and responsibly *wink*), and this is a great way to get some color into your herd.

I hope that helps! If I can offer a hand with your stock, or any questions, I'm player #382, just send a message. Happy breeding!]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4647/training-horses Mon, 02 Nov 2015 04:43:11 -0800 LYNNKINN2 4647@/forum/discussions Many Thanks in anticipation of solution.]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4656/breeding Mon, 02 Nov 2015 09:23:11 -0800 gmranch 4656@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4638/horses-removed-from-market Sun, 01 Nov 2015 08:45:25 -0800 VegemiteQueen 4638@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4597/how-do-dapples-work Thu, 29 Oct 2015 11:02:04 -0700 RoseFlute 4597@/forum/discussions
This horse that I found in the archive/search is silver black, with these genes: eE aa CC dd gg ff SS pp zZ WF: Light
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=278363

except the genes don't seem to matter.

I own these horses, and they were created without dapples, but then I refreshed their images and suddenly they have dapples. Sorry, I haven't color tested this first one yet.
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=299898
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=294469

Are they just a matter of chance?]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4586/the-archive Wed, 28 Oct 2015 20:55:59 -0700 Cheers 4586@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4514/how-did-this-horse-get-gmt039d Wed, 21 Oct 2015 22:39:56 -0700 Capers 4514@/forum/discussions
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=288322]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4501/clarification Tue, 20 Oct 2015 22:51:01 -0700 Kazada Park 4501@/forum/discussions
I'm wondering when someone is selling and offering a stallion for breeding that states only to breed it to a particular generation of mare, is this just for the stallion service or does this also apply to the new owner if purchased? I just wont to get this confirmed so I don't buy a stallion that I can't use!

Cheers]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4485/what-does-no-testing-do Mon, 19 Oct 2015 07:30:32 -0700 Ammit 4485@/forum/discussions No Testing Button not working.]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4486/noticed Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:36:50 -0700 Baya 4486@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4470/can039t-bid Sun, 18 Oct 2015 08:01:59 -0700 NYC Equestrian Horse Rescue 4470@/forum/discussions http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=103245, but there's no tab to do so..?]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4440/what-happens-if- Wed, 14 Oct 2015 13:51:14 -0700 RoseFlute 4440@/forum/discussions
Will the offspring just be a carrier?
What happens if the stallion is homozygous for the unmatched gene?
What happens if the stallion is heterozygous for the unmatched gene?
]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4441/how-do-i-see-what-generation-my-horse-is Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:09:18 -0700 nycequestrian 4441@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4418/fillys Mon, 12 Oct 2015 14:14:39 -0700 Baya 4418@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4420/training Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:57:33 -0700 AvaMay 4420@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4408/auction-can039t-bid Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:52:39 -0700 Cheers 4408@/forum/discussions
There are a couple of mares I like in the public auction but I can't seem to place a bid? I'm playing on my iPad. Do I need to haul out the laptop? Or is there a bug?

Cheers!]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4406/aging Sun, 11 Oct 2015 10:05:43 -0700 lazy s stables 4406@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4407/training Sun, 11 Oct 2015 10:12:28 -0700 lazy s stables 4407@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4378/help-help-help Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:13:35 -0700 TwistedFireDoll 4378@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4356/too-late Tue, 06 Oct 2015 17:23:37 -0700 nycequestrian 4356@/forum/discussions https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4353/forum-question-turned-showing-question Tue, 06 Oct 2015 04:47:15 -0700 aclrksn9 4353@/forum/discussions
Edited: I was reading the "How to Effectively Show Your Horses" post on the forum, and was wondering if it's still the same? From what I can tell, the point system is different? Or I'm just looking in the wrong place. ]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4366/c70y Wed, 07 Oct 2015 06:36:06 -0700 Baya 4366@/forum/discussions
C70Y]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4348/how-to-select-horses Mon, 05 Oct 2015 23:58:53 -0700 Lavina 4348@/forum/discussions
I'm a little puzzled over which horses to breed / retain / sell etc.

I've just bred my second season of foals and looking to increase my mare numbers so will retain fillies. But there are lots of colts in the bunch! I've put them through two shows each and was going to retain stallions / geldings for showing if they won two out of two shows and sell the colts who place second in both.
Inconsistent stallions / geldings are to be auctioned and inconsistent mares to be retained for breeding.
Is this a good strategy? I'm aware that I need to breed foals to earn money and also to have good show horses.

AND when is it a good idea to stop a show horse? When it gets into the negatives?

Is there anything else I'm missing?

Thanks :)]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4277/need-a-tattoo-idea Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:35:51 -0700 Abbey Road 4277@/forum/discussions
So I thought I'd put it to you guys. Here are the tattoos I currently have:

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=173124

Oh, she's not wearing my DP tat, ran out of room, but you can see it at the bottom.

So you can get an idea of what I can actually draw in pixels :)

The person that comes up with my favorite idea that I use for my tattoo will receive 5 straws from stallions of mine, of their choice (some restrictions apply, there are some stallions I can't share). I may give consolation prizes too. If the winner isn't upgraded I'll work something else out for them (a foal from one of my stallions, something like that). Feel free to throw all the ideas at me that you can think of.

Alternatively, if you'd rather, I'll do a tattoo for you too, if you've got the winning idea. Your choice.

]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4334/grullo Sun, 04 Oct 2015 17:48:04 -0700 Cheers 4334@/forum/discussions
I have a true Grullo tobiano splash mare who is currently my favorite horse in the game. She's a foundation and I would like to breed her and get another Grullo. Can y'all give me an idea of what I need to breed her to? I'm not quite sure what genes to look for beside dun...

Thanks

Oh, here she is if that helps.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=284447]]> https://mail.develop.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/4323/ice-question Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:34:41 -0700 VegemiteQueen 4323@/forum/discussions