Genetics - Horse Genetics Game - Dev Forum

Question about bald faced horses (splash, paints, etc)

duelinghawks — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 14:27:52 -0700

I noticed in the game that many of the horses that have bald faces, the white includes and extends past the ears. I haven't noticed that in real life--medicine hats and others all seem to have colored ears. Anyone seen or have any real life photo examples that replicate the game's depiction with white extending beyond the poll?

Dark Horizon x

Appaloosa Color Shifting Project

HTRanch — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 02:50:29 -0700

To me, some of the most fascinating effects in-game are appaloosa varnishing and bronzing. It's so cool to watch horses change as they age! In an attempt to better understand and appreciate appaloosa color shifting in-game, I have decided to embark on a (very long-term) project. I'm not sure if this has been done before, but I will be screenshotting pictures of appaloosa horses every month from 1-2 years old to death and then creating animated gifs or "flipbooks" showing the progressive color shifts. I will likely be doing an update every few months until the horses pass away.

Listed below are the foals and two year olds I will be starting with. These horses will never be sold or auctioned so that I can be sure that I will be able to take their pictures every month.

If there are other appaloosa color combos you would like to see, comment below and I will try and find a foal to match!

Z brz Sun Spots Amber Champagne Leopard Appaloosa -

via GIPHY

Z brz Sun Catcher Smokey Grullo Appaloosa -

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uB Sandcastle White Spotted Silver Black Appaloosa -

via GIPHY

uB Sweetroan Buckskin Roan Appaloosa -

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uR Wilderness - Black Appaloosa -

via GIPHY

Z brz Sun Bronze Wild Bay Buckskin Dun Appaloosa -

via GIPHY

Z brz Galilactica Smokey Black Appaloosa -

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Z brz Speckled Freak Black Snowflake Appaloosa -

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Z brz Tahitian Diamonds Watercolor White Spotted Palomino Dun Appaloosa -

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Z Ww Warped Soul And finally, a hom Wrong Warp White Spotted Chestnut Appaloosa because I am curious about the gene interaction :) -

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Looking for some Freaky Friday GMT Suggestions

BlackWyld — Sat, 29 Sep 2018 04:09:59 -0700

So, this boy has been patiently waiting for some propper GMT work to glitz him up a bit.
I still am not sure what, exactly I want to do with him and would love some suggestions and perspective.

BW RS Freaky Friday

The main thing is, I want to keep him looking as dark as possible since I am breeding for Black Liver only on this account.
I am currently not interested in things that would lighten him up too much like Pearl or Macchiato.

If the roving gene sales are kind I have two ideas I am currently tossing around for him are based on these gorgeous babies below:

I have considered using him to recreate this boy, who broke my damn heart when he was snipped and who almost became my first breeding boost.

BW Snowy Nyght

Or blatantly copying @DevilsParadise 's amazing boy:

DP 5B DreamLikeAFreak

Does anyone have any thoughts or fresh perspective?
I would love to hear what you think! :D

Understanding hidden genes (Liver)

RocknSStables — Sat, 08 Sep 2018 04:03:45 -0700

I’m assuming DP is liver? (Correct me if I’m wrong) and the only way to know if a horse carries or is liver is to breed them since it won’t show in their genes? Right? If that’s the case, how do you know your horse is Het DP (doesn’t show but carry) or Hom DP (shows and carries) if any at all? Maybe I’m over thinking this....? It’s jist all so confusing. I guess that’s why I stuck to “pretty” breeding until now. :-))

Genetic Black looks Chocolate?

PrismEquine — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 10:50:21 -0700

Can anyone help me figure out what is making this girl look chocolate? She tests as black brindle. Hom black, Hom Sooty, no cream or pearl.

RSBN Witches Brew

Kit Promoter

TomCat — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 04:54:44 -0700

If a stallion has KP, can it be passed to foals from a non KP mare?

White Factor Extensiveness - does it breed true?

WhiteMountain — Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:33:49 -0700

So white factor seems to rise the more more generations you go. It seems to only go up. I can breed a "None" to a "light" and get a "medium" or even "large". I would like to keep WF low in my lines.

Any tips?

What gene gives the roan like stain?

MakeMeABird — Mon, 10 Sep 2018 19:29:18 -0700

IntoTheMoon kitm

I love this roaning out stain. Im not even sure what its called.
Im kindda sad this cute filly wont pass the cut. Just havnt hit the spray me button yet. Ugh

Different color

MakeMeABird — Thu, 13 Sep 2018 02:39:34 -0700

Fire Ginger hetdpkp

This guy puzzle me a little. He look SnowFlake. I know no chance of that. Any others like him ?

What is he likely to pass?

TomCat — Thu, 06 Sep 2018 03:24:07 -0700

Im wondering what this boy would be likely to pass onto his offspring. He's the best horse from a few seasons ago. He was pasture bred and the email said he was the best in the pasture. Would he pass on silver? Is there any chance his offspring will have Kit M?

Lost and Down

Gmt advice

RideOutIcePro — Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:45:34 -0700

Ok so i know i wanna ice 9 + 13 him, but idk if i wanna remove a cream gene and add a sooty and dun or leave as is, and i know i wanna alt to w8 kit m.

Does DP make regular bay more red, too?

Lallyhop — Thu, 30 Aug 2018 04:25:27 -0700

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t - I was nearly certain it only affected wild bay that way.

So can someone explain the difference in color here?

ExShow2811412

ExShow2811413

Missed snowflake?

KAMRanch — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 04:27:09 -0700

Am I correct in thinking that this girl missed snowflake all together because she has no Lp?

Sonic Bamb Gr 3g

This is where snowflake confuses me, can she still be a het carrier because her sire was homo SNF? I thought they had to have an Lp to show it though..

Quick question about perlinos

ColorGoodStables — Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:28:44 -0700

First off A cremelo is a chestnut with 2 creams
A smokey cream is a black with 2 creams
And a perlino is a bay with 2 creams, right?

Is a brown (E At) with 2 creams still considered a perlino? I was recently told a brown horse with 2 creams is a false perlino and is, in fact, a "seal brown cream"
This didn't make much sense to me. It's still augouti with double cream so would it be a perlino wouldn't it? I tried looking it up but couldn't find anything

I'll be asking them for sources

Edit
This is unrelated but what white pattern would you call this
http://friesianfury.blogspot.com/2014/04/roaning-large-areas-made-easy-with.html?m=1

Isnt he supposed to be homozygous...?

MariaChapinFarm3 — Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:57:21 -0700

So I had just recently gotten a het nexus mare, and I had some extra funds, so I thought why not splurge and breed her to a homozygous stud.

Well, the outcome wasnt that great, and I am a little confused. The foal passed BA, (yay!) but is only het nexus.. Did I miss something? I thought that it was almost impossible to get a het out of a homo and a het pairing :-/ I mean, he is still super cute though.. He just might get a sex change lol

G5 Nexus Thang

nexus gene

KaiserStables — Wed, 01 Aug 2018 03:38:34 -0700

Can someone tell me more about nexus?

Does he carry GP?

MariaChapinsFarm2 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:14:05 -0700

Ive never really dealt with GP before, so i cant tell... i cant enter him in the club, so i know that he isnt homozygous for it.

I was wondering though, do you guys think that he might be het gp? (The only reason why im asking is because i noticed the coloring of his tail) if not, how can you tell if a horse is het for the gene? Is there a certain letter that represents it? I know its hidden, but i was thinking that since (dp) is a hidden gene as well and you could also tell by the horse having Sty in their genetics- then does gp as well?

Also; Im planning on doing some HEAVY gmting on my stud, so i need to know if i have to add one copy or two for GP.

WNW Narrow Sea

DP in Brown (In Progress)

Haltanny — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 02:10:00 -0700

First off, I want to say this post is still under construction. I decided to work on it here because I was about 90% done with a list of links on my laptop and I lost it. I had to start over, and posts automatically save to drafts here, so here I am.

Second, I ask that nobody comment on this until I get it (mostly) done. This is so I can keep all the example links at the top of the thread for easy finding. This will probably be a lengthy list, so please be patient. If you have questions about DP browns before then, please feel free to PM me.

And lastly, if you have a horse that you think fits, especially in a space that has 0 or only 1 example, please feel free to PM me a link. I am open to help.

Please do bookmark this topic (the Star on desktop or "full site").

Codes
SS = non sooty
SSty = Het Sooty
StySty = Hom Sooty
S+S = Het Sooty Plus
S+Sty = Sooty-Sooty Plus
S+S+ = Hom Sooty Plus
dp = non DP
DP = Het DP
DP2 = Hom DP

Table of Contents

Heterozygous Brown - E- Ata

SS dp
SSty dp
StySty dp
SS DP
SSty DP
StySty DP
SS DP2
SSty DP2
StySty DP2
S+S dp
S+Sty dp
S+S+ dp
S+S DP
S+Sty DP
S+S+ DP
S+S DP2
S+Sty DP2
S+S+ DP2

Homozygous Brown - E- AtAt

SS dp
SSty dp
StySty dp
SS DP
SSty DP
StySty DP
SS DP2
SSty DP2
StySty DP2
S+S dp
S+Sty dp
S+S+ dp
S+S DP
S+Sty DP
S+S+ DP
S+S DP2
S+Sty DP2
S+S+ DP2

Is This Silver Bay DP?

BlackWyld — Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:16:58 -0700

I don't breed for bays. I just wanted to see what the "Dark Silver Bay" HH create looked like and this girl was the first one I made.
She is Hom sty but still seems very dark to me.

2592750

Just trying to learn. :)

Clan Mating System

Haltanny — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 10:13:55 -0700

Although not strictly gene related, I'm putting this here because it is more genetics related than anything else.

I'm considering ststaing a clan mating system here. If you don't know what that is, I'll explain it next, if you know what it is, you can skip to the last paragraph. :)

Clan mating, also known as spiral mating, is a line breeding system that is used to keep genetics diverse. You divide your breeding stock into at least three groups ("clans") based on whatever criteria you choose, and name each clan (for example: green clan, blue clan, yellow clan). The first breeding, you breed your males to the females of the same clan (example: green clan male to green clan females). The resulting offspring are assigned the clan of their mothers (example: green clan females give birth to green clan offspring). The next breeding, you breed your males to females one clan over (example: green clan male to yellow clan females, yellow males to blue females and blue males to green females). The resulting offspring are assigned the clan of their mothers (example: blue males x green females = green offspring). In real life situations, you would breed the F1 males of one clan to the F1 AND parent females of the next clan. For the game, you would probably breed those of the same generation together. The third breeding, you would continue as above breeding males to the next clan over. Eventually, depending on how many clans you use, the pedigree will be a spiral around the clans. :) Feel free to ask questions.

Now that is explained, I am considering doing this for my farm because it will be a simple way to keep bloodlines and breeding straight without having to keep a document for notes. (I don't have a computer). I plan to start this next season, I just need to figure out how I want to divide my clans. I plan to use 1 stud for each clan foundation, and at present can have 10 mares per clan foundation. I made a rough draft dividing by type of create and can do 2 clans of "regular foundation", 2 clans of "perfect foundation" and 2 clans of RS/ExProducers/TNP. I have considered getting rid of the regular foundation, but I would like to keep the colors, so haven't made the cut. I could switch around so that the RF, PF, RS, EPr and TNP are spread throughout each clan. I may not get as many intact foals, but I'm ok with that since I use the pasture bonus and get a ridiculous amount of intact foals already. If I do it that way, I have to come up with different criteria for dividing the clans, ideally keeping similar colors or genes together to improve my chances at producing those colors. Anyone have any thoughts, questions or suggestions that may help me decide?

Kit w20 help

ScarletRidgeEC — Mon, 23 Jul 2018 11:18:29 -0700

My horse is Kitw20 Kitw20, what does this mean exactly?

Het or Hom DP Choc? (Solved)

ParadisePark — Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:09:50 -0700

2578643choc
Tried gmting on dp to see if it would work.
I only have 1 gmt but both said:
Could not edit horse. An error has occurred.
So would that mean she is hom?

Funky Appy

HTRanch — Mon, 16 Jul 2018 03:37:06 -0700

What is going on with this horse? The white speckled spot on the nose and the patchy blanket and the white speckles on the leg seem out of the norm for appys. Sabino in the mix maybe?

http://www.sacredwindwalker.com/20171011_125653.jpg

Quick question about Snowflake

SalishSea — Fri, 13 Jul 2018 03:41:10 -0700

I know that SNF needs two copies and an LP to express - but does it need two copies of Lp as well? trying to figure how best to breed....

I am confused solved

AshaRainwillow — Sat, 14 Jul 2018 01:53:11 -0700

So can any one tell me how 2 chocolate palomino horse produced a liver chestnut foal.

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DP Or Just Sooty Expression?

PrismEquine — Mon, 09 Jul 2018 09:21:31 -0700

Is this girl possibly a carrier of DP? It’s not a gene I know much about. I’m wanting to cull her from my breeding program, but unsure if I should send her to auction because she doesn’t carry anything special, or if she does, advertise her to those who breed for that gene.

FireBug

Brown Appaloosa Question

SalishSea — Sat, 07 Jul 2018 16:07:03 -0700

I am trying to create a nice true breeding brown appaloosa stallion.
I keep getting only two types: No spots, like this guy:

Salish Medicine Hat

Or a blinding white rear quarter, like this:

Salish EP Splendid Sun

The stallions with no spots seem to throw foals with no spots - even when bred to appy mares with large blankets. I haven't experimented with the other type yet. Am I missing something with appy genes?

Help me Pick Studs for Geneing

BlackWyld — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:48:50 -0700

I am obsessing over it a bit too much so I am looking for some advice from you lovely people. :)
I am hoping to gene up a Macchiato and a Snowflake foundation stud before the end of the Gene Refresh sale . I have a few boys in mind and would love your input. Who do you think would look best with which gene?
If I can manage it I may try for W8 or Kitm in the near future too so I guess I would like input on those as well.
I am still quite new so I have a hard time looking at my studs and visualizing how their current genes will interact with any new ones.
I understand that Macchiato will lighten the coat a fair bit. Does it need frame too look its best? Or is it okay on a horse without? Can I get away with removing Frame on the boys that have it (VoS) if I have the GMTs to spare? I see that many people seem to prefer their mares to carry it over their studs.

These are my boys that are up for consideration. (I am aware that some of them may currently have living foals. I am willing to sell them back to the game if I decide they are the best fit for the genes.)

I also intend to create a black liver stud for Freaky Friday who should be considered in this list. (Why did Mushroom have to end before FF?! :-((

For your consideration:
2yrs

BW Lycan
The Blackest Night

BW Star Prince
Vault of Stars

BW BlackStone
ExPro Appy

3yrs

CS RS Vault of Stars
Vault of Stars

BW ExP Spit Spot
ExPro Appy

BW ExP Sweet Darkness
ExPer

I have these two handsome lads as well but only if there is overwhelming agreement that they are the best choice as they have a few foals I would have to get rid of:

BW RS Elope
White Wedding (I don’t want to do anything that may lose me his white striations.)

BW Liv and Let Liv
ExPro Appy (Seriously considering Yumming(?) his current foals just so I can make him Hom DP as my goal is to breed primarily black livers.)

I also have these two lovely ladies who I could gender change too (I love my Silver Blacks!):

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ExPro Silver

Prime Light 30hbs
ExPro Silver

*EDIT*
Just found this girl too who could be gender swapped:

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ExPro Appy

Whew! Thank you for your patience and any advice you are willing to share! ^:)^

Genetics Question. (Het/ and HOM genes)

MariaChapinsFarm2 — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:48:05 -0700

The answer is probably obvious, so im sorry if it is!

If a foal has two parents that are heterozygous for a certain gene and the foal is either hetero/or doesnt carry the gene, could he/she be genetically modified to be homozygous (or hetero, if the foal doesnt originally carry the gene)? Im wanting to do some gm work on a foal or two, but before i do i wanna make sure that its possible. Any advice helps! :)

Blue Roan?

GanjaStables — Sun, 24 Jun 2018 05:20:27 -0700

I was wondering how rare blue roan is, I havent heard of it until I bred this little guy.
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=2368891

Genetics - Horse Genetics Game - Dev Forum

Question about bald faced horses (splash, paints, etc)

Appaloosa Color Shifting Project

Looking for some Freaky Friday GMT Suggestions

Understanding hidden genes (Liver)

Genetic Black looks Chocolate?

Kit Promoter

White Factor Extensiveness - does it breed true?

What gene gives the roan like stain?

Different color

What is he likely to pass?

Gmt advice

Does DP make regular bay more red, too?

Missed snowflake?

Quick question about perlinos

Isnt he supposed to be homozygous...?

nexus gene

Does he carry GP?

DP in Brown (In Progress)

Is This Silver Bay DP?

Clan Mating System

Kit w20 help

Het or Hom DP Choc? (Solved)

Funky Appy

Quick question about Snowflake

I am confused *solved*

DP Or Just Sooty Expression?

Brown Appaloosa Question

Help me Pick Studs for Geneing

Genetics Question. (Het/ and HOM genes)

Blue Roan?

I am confused solved